Movies we completely disagree on

Brian and Matt have very similar taste in film, but every once in a while we completely disagree on a movie. Each of the Movie Brothers will list three three movies we disagree on and rip on each other in the process. Enjoy!

Brian

Hulk (Ang Lee version from 2003)

This film is an abhorrent failure on every conceivable level.   The special effects make the Hulk look like a fake plastic doll, Eric Bana is lifeless in the lead, Nick Nolte seems like they grabbed him from a  totally different movie and Ang Lee’s direction is rudderless, flat, and uninteresting.  This was even more apparent when the movie studio pretended they got a do-over and released the much better “Incredible Hulk” in 2008.  Matt always told me he liked the more cerebral aspects of the film.  To this I say:  “Yeah, I enjoyed the really ‘cerebral’ moments as well, like when Hulk smashed some cars and fought mutated dogs.  Wow, so deep……”

Matt’s rating: 7 out of 10
My rating: 2 out of 10

Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy

This one isn’t as awful as Hulk but it’s damn near close.  I remember sitting in the theater after this chunk of mule shit started and thought: “This is what all the hype is about?  Are you fucking kidding me?”  All those readers who enjoyed the book (including my brother) told me it was awesome and I’d love it.  What is there to love?  A stupid robot with Alan Rickman’s voice?  A plot that meanders around with little or no explanation?  Characters that pop in and out of the story with no dramatic arc or sense of purpose?  Matt loves the books and is just kidding himself that the film isn’t bad.

Matt’s rating: 8 out of 10
My rating: 3 out of 10

Kids in Hall: Brain Candy


I was never a huge fan of Kids in the Hall but I did catch their show once in a while and though it could be pretty funny.  But, this movie is one of the biggest pieces of garbage I’ve ever seen.  It makes no sense, looks and feels exceptionally low budget and cheap, and is just plain unfunny.  The actors go in and out of characters that belonged in bad five minute sketches and not 90 minute films.  If any of the original creators ever happen to run into this blog, I just want you to know that your film single-handedly turned me off to the Kids in the Hall forever.  Yes, it’s that bad.

Matt’s Rating: 7 out of 10
My Rating: 1 out of 10

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Matt

Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas

I’m sorry, but Hunter S. Thompson is a hack. He used his whole career to shape “gonzo journalism,” and what bothers me more than his fake journalism is that people believed him. Would you really rely on the work of a journalist who loads up on cocaine before heading into the office? And that’s precisely why this script fails. It is moronic. Terry Gilliam‘s visual style works for this movie, but what’s so great about seeing alligators playing poker? I have friends who’ve tripped on acid and they say they’ve never seen anything like that. It’s hard to say Johnny Depp over acted, since that was a requirement for the role, but it was just annoying. The whole movie was a flop.

Brian’s rating: 8 out of 10
My rating:
3 out of 10

Titanic

I remember when my brother came up to me, beyond excited, exclaiming that “Titanic” was the greatest movie ever made and that he’s never seen anything like it. He insisted on going again and taking me. He explained that it was of vital importance that I see this movie. It was one of those movies that would change my life. Instead, I was forced to endure more than three hours of the corniest dialogue and acting I had seen in a long time. Look, the third act is powerful, but there’s a reason for it. It’s all action. The actors can’t trip over the terrible dialogue and each others’ wooden performances. Director James Cameron knows special effects and little else. There are some truly laughable moments, like when Leonardo DiCaprio’s character is handcuffed to a pipe and Kate Winslet goes to look for something to cut him free, and he says, “I’ll be right here!” Where the hell else was he going?

Brian’s rating: 10 out of 10
My rating: 4 out of 10

The Devil’s Rejects

This movie should have been called “The Devil’s Retards.” This is another one of those movies where Brian approached me with bounding enthusiasm. He literally said: “Rob Zombie is the future of Hollywood. He will represent the next great generation of directors.” That’s a huge endorsement. And no, I’m not joking when I quote him.  He really said that. So I ran to rent “The Devil’s Rejects” expecting to see the next Kubrick or Kirosawa. Instead, I sat through 109 minutes of pure crap. Wretched acting (he needs to stop putting his wife in all his movies because she can’t act), laughable dialogue, and special effects that look like a high school audio-visual club pieced it together. On top of that, this movie is a sequel! Lions Gate dished out $7 million on this piece of crap — which is nothing, I know. But Rob Zombie is the last guy I’d give $7 million. This is one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen.

Brian’s rating: 8 out of 10
My rating: 1 out of 10

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32 responses to “Movies we completely disagree on

  1. The thing that all these movies have in common is the talent level involved. Hacks wouldn’t go this far in the wrong direction. It took some really smart people to make this garbage.
    For every interesting thing in Hulk, a turd quickly followed.
    I enjoyed Brain Candy, I’m a big Kids fan, but I can understand any non fan finding it puzzling. They cut a great deal out of the movie to get it released.

    I hated Fear and Loathing when I saw it in the theater, by the time they got to the pie scene in the diner, I’d had enough. Now that I have a little bit more life experience, ie, wandering around in various states of what_have_you, I find that movie to be hysterical.
    Titanic was some real labor to sit through, Bill Paxton and Billy Zane didn’t help.

    The Devils rejects was the right kind of terrible, my youtube channel is full of trailers for original grindhouse type pictures. I had as much fun as one could have while watching a movie that features Diamond Dallas Page.

  2. Hulk: No opinion… never looked good enough to watch.

    Hitchhiker’s: Underwhelming. The problem is that you can’t take Adams’ classic epic and condense into two hours, nevertheless and hour and a half. it really deserves multi-film or mini-series treatment (as the BBC gave it).

    Brain Candy: Hilarious. If you don’t get or like ‘Kids in the Hall’ you won’t like ‘Brain Candy,’ either.

    Fear and Loathing: Never saw it.

    Devil’s Rejects: Horrible, disgusting film. No redeeming value whatsoever. Far worse than even its predecessor, ‘House of 1,000 Corpses.’ It’s up there with ‘Natural Born Killers’ as one of the most indecent and depraved films of all times. I don’t mind horror films but this is just pure, unbridled depravity. Just like Oliver Stone, I think Rob Zombie is mentally unbalanced.

    Titanic: I saw ‘Titanic’ five times in the theater (not by choice). It was an a amazing film at the time, but in retrospect I think everyone confused technical prowess for quality.

    James Cameron should have been on your list of most overrated directors. He has grand visions that are flashy and innovative but lack in story, script, casting and dialog. The same holds true for ‘Avatar’ and even T2 to an extent. I think Hollywood finally figured that out this year by snubbing ‘Avatar.’ Unfortunately, they didn’t figure it out with Titanic.

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    • I would argue that there is some mental imbalance in seeing Titanic five times.
      I saw Natural Born Killers, first day, first showing. 75% of the people in the theater had walked out by the end of the Rodney Dangerfield scenes. It was an amazing things to see, I returned later that evening with friends, and signs were posted saying
      ” Natural Born Killers contains VILE AND GRAPHIC content, NO REFUNDS will be given” lol!
      That movie was some experience, I think it still stands up today as a comment on culture.

      • Yeah, we all understood that it was supposed to be a commentary on the culture because Oliver Stone made a point to explain it to us every five minutes during various interviews. Sorry, but when you have to explain it as much as he did, you have failed as a filmmaker.

        As far as the seeing ‘Titanic’ five times is concerned, apparently you missed the parenthetical “not by choice” at the end of that.

        Think about it. What could possibly be the only reason why a sane, heterosexual male would pay to see ‘Titanic’ five times? I’ll give you a clue: it had nothing to do with sanity.

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  3. The Devil’s Rejects is depraved and disgusting because it’s a throwback film to Grindhouse cinema of the early 1970’s. I suppose if you didn’t like those films, you wouldn’t like that either. I also own Natural Born Killers on blu-ray and love that film but can definitely see why some would hate it. the problem with both films is that they essentially hate it because of the violence and not because it’s a well made film that does exactly what it intended to do.

    • We’ll have to disagree on this one because I appreciate Grindhouse style-films and Devils is not in same spirit. Again, it’s not the violence, it’s the depravity issue.

      Hell, I loved “Punisher; War Zone” and that is one of the most violent films ever made.

  4. Thanks for the post. It’s a nice post.

  5. Enjoyed this post. It cracks me up when you guys agree to disagree.

  6. How can Brian say that Titanic is a good movie? I respect other peoples’ opinions but… I always find it hard to take Titanic-lovers seriously. Especially those who paid to see it five times. On the other hand, hating Fear and Loathing mostly because you don’t like Hunter S. Thompson is a little shallow: surely cinematic quality wins out?

    • Hi Scarlet,

      Brian has since backed off on Titanic. He says now he’d give it a 7 out of 10 and it’s not the greatest movie ever made. I think I made fun of him enough to make him realize the error of his ways. He’s just like that. He falls in love with things and gets caught up in the moment.

      I do hate Thompson, but it’s his story, his script. So if I’m not a fan of the book, the movie will be hard to like, too. Never read a book I didn’t like and then end up liking the movie. It’s usually in reverse. I did watch the movie a couple times, but I just can’t get into it.

      Thanks for reading! I checked out your blog, and I think it’s really cool. I’ll add you to our blog roll.

  7. Matt likes to stir the pot with Titanic. I still like it but mostly for the last act which is still excellent. The first half of the film is nauseating upon second viewing, especially the awful dialogue.

    Devils Rejects is a film I have to stick up for. It has a tremendous sense of energy, wit, and style. It’s depraved but Pulp Fiction isn’t? Didn’t a guy get gagged and homosexually gang raped until he wa hacked up with a samurai sword? What’s the difference?

    Btw, Pulp Fiction is in my top 5, all time.

    • Brian, I couldn’t agree with you more on that. ‘Titanic’ is a good movie (I think the 7 out of 10 is completely fair). It’s not nearly as bad or good as the gushers or haters like to make it out to be. You’re absolutely correct about the dialogue; it is horrendous and it’s typical of James Cameron films in general.

      No, I certainly wouldn’t say ‘Pulp Fiction’ is depraved… violent , yes, depraved, no. DR has no plot. It simply revolves around, rape, torture, gruesome murder and just out and out abject cruelty… from the protagonists. It has no redeeming value because there is absolutely no justice in the film. Like I said, it’s a lot like NBK.

  8. Cool post, guys.

    Titanic is a good movie, but I have a hard time giving it any respect because it beat L.A. Confidential for the Oscar that year. That’s a crime against cinema.

    I also happen to like The Devil’s Rejects. A lot.

    • ‘L.A. Confidential’ is a great film but I don’t know if it was Oscar worthy for Best Picture. It was certainly better then ‘Titanic.’ Like I said, I think Hollywood intentionally corrected the ‘Titanic’ mistake this year by snubbing ‘Avatar’ in favor of ‘The Hurt Locker.’

  9. Hurt Locker was an above average action film in a year when it was a crime against celluloid that Inglorious Basterds didn’t win the Oscar for Best Picture.

  10. I agree with Matt. District 9 was amazing!!

  11. I bought into titanic’s sappiness back in the days. I think Celine Dion’s Heart will go on was actually the icing on the cake. But I never ever agreed to a second viewing of it. There was just something un-alluring about it. District 9 was great but not Oscar Best Picture worthy. So too Inglorius Basterds.
    Natural Born Killers and the Devil’s rejects? Thanks for warning me off.

  12. You definitely are the harsher critic I see lol I’d be curious to hear what you think about Takers and The Last Exorcism, the two box office champs of this weekend. Would you even go see them? I thought Takers was decent. I went in with no expectations, and walked away satisfied with what was given to me. I posted my thoughts on my blog – http://ipeoplewatch.wordpress.com/, which is finally back in business! Anyways, you’ll be able to see how I didn’t go much into the actual storyline. lol Love this post guys!

    • Great post. I’ll have to check it out.

      The Last Exorcism is one I’d probably wait for DVD. Same as Takers. If I went and saw every movie I wanted, I’d be broke 😀

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